Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS. I am beginning to sunset the entry, but it's still going to stay until 18.04 LTS releases. As such, this will be a slow sunset for the Ubuntu non-recommendation.
* (10/20/17) I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
* (10/22/17-10/23/17) General refinement
* (10/23/17) Removed the 8 lines note from the Intel and AMD (Processor) steps. Replaced with DDR2 warning and DDR2 advisory, respectively.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
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If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
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If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
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== Update (10/26/17) ==
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Judging from the lack of responses on this post (and lack of use for the guide) I do not think I will release a dedicated desktop guide in the 2008-2012 series. Desktops tend to be more difficult to find, so the effort required to find hardware does not seem like it is worth it.
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I might change my mind and I know where modifications are going to be required, so it can be done. However, I want to make sure it's worth doing.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS. I am beginning to sunset the entry, but it's still going to stay until 18.04 LTS releases. As such, this will be a slow sunset for the Ubuntu non-recommendation.
* (10/20/17) I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
* (10/22/17-10/23/17) General refinement
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* (10/23/17) Removed the 8 lines note from AMD (Processor) step. Replaced with DDR2 warning.
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* (10/23/17) Removed the 8 lines note from the Intel and AMD (Processor) steps. Replaced with DDR2 warning and DDR2 advisory, respectively.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS. I am beginning to sunset the entry, but it's still going to stay until 18.04 LTS releases. As such, this will be a slow sunset for the Ubuntu non-recommendation.
* (10/20/17) I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
+
* (10/22/17-10/23/17) General refinement
+
* (10/23/17) Removed the 8 lines note from AMD (Processor) step. Replaced with DDR2 warning.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
-
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS. I am beginning to sunset the entry slowly, but it's still going to stay until 18.04 LTS releases.
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* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS. I am beginning to sunset the entry, but it's still going to stay until 18.04 LTS releases. As such, this will be a slow sunset for the Ubuntu non-recommendation.
* (10/20/17) I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
-
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS.
+
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS. I am beginning to sunset the entry slowly, but it's still going to stay until 18.04 LTS releases.
* (10/20/17) I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS.
-
* I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
+
* (10/20/17) I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS.
-
* I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide, but anyone in Meta seeing this has advance warning.
+
* I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide since it will be out of place, but anyone who sees Meta knows in advance.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
-
* (10/20/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
+
* (10/15/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS.
* I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide, but anyone in Meta seeing this has advance warning.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
-
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general still stand.
-
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though. This format has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
-
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
-
* I no longer list a DVD capacity in the intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide, but I am transitioning away from DVD's.
-
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up. It remains depreciated so it isn't coming back. This is the final update this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
+
* (10/20/17) While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have said that it's an option for systems with buggy USB booting. With that being said I made it very clear that those systems are rare and doesn't apply to most people. My thoughts on optical media in general stand.
+
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. The caveat is it only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes.
+
* The format used for the Secure Boot step has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
+
* (10/20/17) I have not removed the entry for Ubuntu (Unity) yet. With that being said it's going to be removed soon. 17.10 is out and uses GNOME instead of Unity, but I am waiting on 18.04 LTS to remove it. Unity is still default in 16.04 LTS.
+
* I no longer list the single layer DVD capacity in the intro. It is still supported, but my continued support comes with one major warning: This is the last guide I am willing to green light DVD installation for any reason. This isn't in the guide, but anyone in Meta seeing this has advance warning.
+
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated it has been cleaned up. With that being said, it will remain depreciated. The updates I did are the last updates it will ever get. The reason? Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are common and cheap.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though. This format has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
* I no longer list a DVD capacity in the intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide, but I am transitioning away from DVD's.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up. It remains depreciated so it isn't coming back. This is the final update this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
-
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I feel like the problem was that I released it too early. I should have known better, but I did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
+
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I think the problem wasn't the release. It seems like the more likely scenario is I released it with too many problems I didn't notice right away, even though I knew it wouldn't be complete when it was made public in advance. I should know better, but I did it because the rewrite took 2 years. Even though the original release was a mess, it would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
-
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
+
If there is any more work I need to do past this point, let me know. I shouldn't have to pull it back this time, since most of the issues are ironed out to the extent I can keep it public. The majority of edits I need to make can be made on the fly.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
-
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
-
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
-
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
+
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general still stand.
+
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though. This format has also been applied to the Optimus steps (Dell and Lenovo Business).
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
-
* I have dropped the DVD capacity mentions from the Intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide and mention it in the Media step, but I am trying to transition away from DVD's. This line was also redundant anyway.
-
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
+
* I no longer list a DVD capacity in the intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide, but I am transitioning away from DVD's.
+
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up. It remains depreciated so it isn't coming back. This is the final update this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
-
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
+
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I feel like the problem was that I released it too early. I should have known better, but I did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
* I have dropped the DVD capacity mentions from the Intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide and mention it in the Media step, but I am trying to transition away from DVD's. This line was also redundant anyway.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
-
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I'm thinking it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
+
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I think it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
* I have dropped the DVD capacity mentions from the Intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide and mention it in the Media step, but I am trying to transition away from DVD's. This line was also redundant anyway.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
+
* (10/19/17) I thought about removing the Seagate warning but I'm thinking it's here to stay. I have a ST500LM000 in my E6540 and it's starting to have problems with 8,456 hours on the clock as I write this. Unbelievable.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
-
* I have dropped the DVD capacity mentions from the Intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide and mention it in the Media step, but I am trying to transition away from DVD's plus removal of redundancy.
+
* I have dropped the DVD capacity mentions from the Intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide and mention it in the Media step, but I am trying to transition away from DVD's. This line was also redundant anyway.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
+
* I have dropped the DVD capacity mentions from the Intro. I still support DVD installation with this guide and mention it in the Media step, but I am trying to transition away from DVD's plus removal of redundancy.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
-
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
+
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but I thought it was almost done and the remaining issues were minor and released it anyway. It just became clear that I released too early and there were more issues then I thought.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
-
* I have reduced the automatic edit threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to see what happens. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
+
* I have reduced the automatic edit accept threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to try it. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to see what happens. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
-
* While I still discourage DVD distro installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD. The catch is these scenarios are limited to situations where you have to use a boot manager if you want to install over USB. I still think optical mediums are on the way out, so my points on USB being preferable if you can boot directly or are willing to use a boot manager stand.
+
* While I still discourage using a DVD for installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to anyway. The catch is these scenarios are still limited. My thoughts on optical media in general also still stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic edit threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to see what happens. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
-
* While I still discourage DVD distro installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD. The catch is these scenarios are limited to situations where you have to use a boot manager if you want to install over USB. I still think optical mediums are on the way out, so my points on USB being preferable if you can boot directly or are willing to use a boot manager stand. This also applies to my thoughts on laptops without an optical drive, along with replacement of faulty drives.
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* While I still discourage DVD distro installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD. The catch is these scenarios are limited to situations where you have to use a boot manager if you want to install over USB. I still think optical mediums are on the way out, so my points on USB being preferable if you can boot directly or are willing to use a boot manager stand.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
-
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
-
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
-
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide have such a compromise,although there could be more that I forgot about.I did this for these steps because they are notoriously hard to work into what I exactly want.
-
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this is more of a compromise. I will make a final call here once I know more about where these M parts stand in terms of performance.
-
* While I still discourage DVD use if you have the option of using USB, I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD anyway. These scenarios are limited to situations where you have to choose between directly booting from DVD or using a boot manager, though. I still think the medium is dying and it's not something to worry about too much if you find out the laptop you like doesn't have the option of a DVD drive (or if the laptop has a drive and it has failed, it probably isn't worth replacing).
+
* I have reduced the automatic edit threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to see what happens. I still set it high since I want to make sure edits go to Patrol, but I also want to make editing somewhat accessible. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
+
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues or inefficiencies I can fix.
+
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide are in this group. This simply means I couldn't get it to what I exactly wanted but I was able to come very close to the final version I wanted.
+
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place these non APU parts, so I did this as a half step until I know more and can make the final call.
+
* While I still discourage DVD distro installation (if USB is an option), I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD. The catch is these scenarios are limited to situations where you have to use a boot manager if you want to install over USB. I still think optical mediums are on the way out, so my points on USB being preferable if you can boot directly or are willing to use a boot manager stand. This also applies to my thoughts on laptops without an optical drive, along with replacement of faulty drives.
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
-
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is currently still the default UX for Ubuntu. I'm not going to remove it until I see 17.10 and 18.04 LTS are released as stable build.
-
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will remain a depreciated step, and will be the last time this step ever gets updated. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
+
* I have not removed the Ubuntu (Unity) entry yet. Unity is still the default UX for Ubuntu and I am waiting for the switch to GNOME in the rolling and LTS (17.10/18.04 LTS) releases to remove it.
+
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will still remain depreciated so it isn't going to come back. This is also the final update that this step will get. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they are notoriously hard to work into what I exactly want.
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this is more of a compromise. I will make a final call here once I know more about where these M parts stand in terms of performance.
-
* While I still discourage DVD use if you have the option of using USB, I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD anyway. These scenarios are limited to situations where you have to choose between directly booting from DVD or using a boot manager, though. I still stand behind my thoughts on the state of DVD's in general.
+
* While I still discourage DVD use if you have the option of using USB, I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD anyway. These scenarios are limited to situations where you have to choose between directly booting from DVD or using a boot manager, though. I still think the medium is dying and it's not something to worry about too much if you find out the laptop you like doesn't have the option of a DVD drive (or if the laptop has a drive and it has failed, it probably isn't worth replacing).
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is currently still the default UX for Ubuntu. I'm not going to remove it until I see 17.10 and 18.04 LTS are released as stable build.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will remain a depreciated step, and will be the last time this step ever gets updated. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
-
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
+
* Rather then releasing it ~96% complete like before I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they are notoriously hard to work into what I exactly want.
-
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
-
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
-
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem"step.
-
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content,but share a similar formatting style.
-
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
-
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
+
* The Integrated video step has G (APU) and M (Mobile) references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this is more of a compromise. I will make a final call here once I know more about where these M parts stand in terms of performance.
+
* While I still discourage DVD use if you have the option of using USB, I have added more scenarios that may make sense to use a DVD anyway. These scenarios are limited to situations where you have to choose between directly booting from DVD or using a boot manager, though. I still stand behind my thoughts on the state of DVD's in general.
+
* I have worded the steps to disable Secure Boot to be more of a how to step rather then general instructions. It still only covers reference UI AMI BIOSes, though.
+
* The steps to disable Optimus on Dell Business and Lenovo ThinkPads have been revised to have a similar format to the Secure Boot step.
+
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is currently still the default UX for Ubuntu. I'm not going to remove it until I see 17.10 and 18.04 LTS are released as stable build.
+
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be somewhat on par with the rest of the guide. It will remain a depreciated step, and will be the last time this step ever gets updated. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to consider backtracking.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
Links:
* Changelog: [post|9904]
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* Guide: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130 (Copy this link; I don't know why this happens)
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they are notoriously hard to work into what I exactly want.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
-
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I figured the work needed to bring it up to speed would be minimal. I then had to pull back because there were too many problems.
+
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I expected the remaining mistakes to be easy to correct quickly. It just became very clear I was wrong.
* Guide: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130 (Copy this link; I don't know why this happens)
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they are notoriously hard to work into what I exactly want.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I figured the work needed to bring it up to speed would be minimal. I then had to pull back because there were too many problems.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
-
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
+
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 lines in the guide have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they are notoriously hard to work into what I exactly want.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I figured the work needed to bring it up to speed would be minimal. I then had to pull back because there were too many problems.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
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* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~7 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
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* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~9 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I figured the work needed to bring it up to speed would be minimal. I then had to pull back because there were too many problems.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
-
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~6 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
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* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~7 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I figured the work needed to bring it up to speed would be minimal. I then had to pull back because there were too many problems.
The major things that changed from the original release are:
-
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens I'm going to go back to 30k.
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* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens once I'm going to go back to 30k and it's staying there.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~6 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
Linux Laptop 2008-2012 re-release feedback request
Text:
This guide was originally published on 8/13/17. I had to make it private on 9/5/17 because it had more problems then I anticipated at the time. I knew it was incomplete, but was comfortable releasing because I figured the work needed to bring it up to speed would be minimal. I then had to pull back because there were too many problems.
Links:
* Changelog: [post|9904]
* Guide: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
The major things that changed from the original release are:
* I have reduced the automatic acceptance threshold from 30k to 20k. This is a risky move, but I'm willing to give it a chance. I still want to ensure most edits go to Patrol, but I also don't want to cut out anyone at the same time because my number is too high. If something happens I'm going to go back to 30k.
* Rather then release it ~96% complete I opted to go for 100% complete. However, there may still be underlying issues.
* I had to compromise on what I wanted to put into certain steps. ~6 of these steps have such a compromise, although there could be more that I forgot about. I did this for these steps because they were notoriously hard to deal with to the extent I wanted them to be.
* The Integrated video step has G/M references for AMD Radeon chips. I don't know where to place the mobile chips for the parts I selected to specifically mention, so this was an easy compromise in the short term. I will make more changes once I know more about where these M series parts stand in terms of performance.
* While I still have a very heavy emphasis on using USB over DVD in every scenario you can do it, I have backtracked on my reluctance to clear it *slightly*. I still stand behind what I think about DVD's for systems without an issue booting from USB, but I'm just backtracking on some reasons I initially rejected as valid to use DVD.
* The disable Secure Boot step has been worded more as a "Here's how to deal with the problem" step.
* The Optimus disables for Dell Business and Lenovo Think products have different content, but share a similar formatting style.
* I have yet to remove the Ubuntu entry at the moment. Unity is still used in recent versions so it's here to stay until the LTS GNOME version is released as a stable build. This entry is on borrowed time.
* While the Chipset step is still depreciated I have cleaned it up to be nearly on par with the rest of the guide. I have no intention of removing it's depreciated status and this is the last time I ever plan on revising anything in this step. Laptops that integrate the northbridge into the processor are too common to even consider backtracking here.
So that's basically what release 2.0 brings that wasn't in the first release. I went wrong in way too many areas to release sooner, and it was rushed the first time. I should have known better then to do this, but did it because of how long it took to revive. The logic was it took 2 years to get anywhere with this guide, so a incomplete release would be [https://static.carthrottle.com/workspace/uploads/comments/566ef9284b5ded22af2adf28257dacac.jpg|better then nothing].
If anyone has any advice for what still needs work, let me know. It's now complete to the point I don't feel I need to pull it back a 3rd time so this likely won't happen again - I specifically avoided a rush release again because it wasn't worth it the first time.
