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I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

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@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
* Older [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
+
Sadly, the newer FireCuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
+
Remove the older systems from the supported list. Only systems newer from 2011 onward can use the FireCuda drive.
The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are now all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
+
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

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Edit by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
* Older [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
Sadly, the newer FireCuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
-Remove the older systems from the supported list. Only systems newer from 2010 onward can use the FireCuda drive.
+Remove the older systems from the supported list. Only systems newer from 2011 onward can use the FireCuda drive.
The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are now all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

Discussion Topic:

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open

Edit by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
* Older [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
Sadly, the newer FireCuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
-Remove the older systems from the supported list. Only systems newer from 2010 onward can use this drive.
+Remove the older systems from the supported list. Only systems newer from 2010 onward can use the FireCuda drive.
The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are now all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

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Edit by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
* Older [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
Sadly, the newer FireCuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
+Remove the older systems from the supported list. Only systems newer from 2010 onward can use this drive.
+
The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are now all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

Discussion Topic:

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Edit by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
* Older [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
-Sadly, the newer Firecuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
+Sadly, the newer FireCuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
-The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
+The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are now all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
-The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
+The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
+* Older [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
Sadly, the newer Firecuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara
OK let’s start off with an understanding…
I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) 2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!
-The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.
+The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/laptop-sshd-dsDS1814-3-1602US-en_US.pdf|Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LX001 Spec Sheet]
Sadly, the newer Firecuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.
Please correct these two entries system listings:
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
-
The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!
'''For reference:'''
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]
-
Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!
I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

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Original post by: Dan

Title:

I know you're going to hate me! iFixit Store needs to fix SSHD listing

Text:

@kristen & @jogihara

OK let’s start off with an understanding…

I love Seagate hybrid SSHD drives! I don’t recommend the newer model in older SATA II (3.0 Gb/s)  2.5” drive’d systems! The newer FireCuda model is not like the older version!

The older 2.5” model could be put into any! SATA I (1.5 Gb/s),SATA II (3.0 Gb/s), or SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system.

Sadly, the newer Firecuda 2.5” can only be used in a SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) system! It does not have a means to auto sense the systems SATA ports I/O data rate unlike the older version.

Please correct these two entries system listings:

* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/500-GB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-098?o=1|500 GB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]
* [https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/1-TB-SSD-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-Hard-Drive/IF107-122?o=1|1 TB SSD Hybrid 2.5" Hard Drive]

The problem here is the drive makers are cutting away old tech to cheapen the price of the drive. Many of the disk drive makers are dropping it on the more aggressively priced drives. The FireCuda 3.5” drives still have the tech and all of the Western Digital 2.5” & 3.5” drives are all fixed SATA III. Just look at the spec sheets. If it doesn’t state it don’t use it!

'''For reference:'''

* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-2-5-ds1908-1-1609us.pdf|FireCuda 2.5” Spec Sheet]
* [https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/firecuda-family/firecuda/files/firecuda-ds-1903-1-1606us.pdf|FireCuda 3.5” Spec Sheet]

Note the '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line on the 3.5” drive offers '''''6.0/3.0/1.5''''' support. Unlike the 2.5” drive which only lists the '''''Interface''''' line and only lists '''''SATA 6Gb/s''''' and does not offer '''''SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s)''''' line at all!

I’ve spoken with high level Seagate engineers because I was encountering issues with the new 2.5” FireCuda drives when they first came out.

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