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I understand what's discussed, but I don't see the point in professional vs. newbie sections.
There is 2 + 2 = 4 - the answer is the same to a 3 year old as it is to a PhD. You can have a guide on how to replace an LCD assembly, and a guide on how to replace the LCD by itself. So long as each guide is efficient and to the point, there need not be a separate guide for newbies. A newbie can choose to perform the easier(albeit more expensive) job, but it is still the same procedure.
-Let's be honest for a second; In this business what separates professionals from newbies are that professionals call themselves professionals and ask for money. I've been to enough places where people who claim to have 25+ years of experience are opening an iFixit guide to fix something, and I smack them on the head for removing the keyboard/trackpad/battery/ram cover to replace the lcd screen same as I would anyone else. There should be guides that tell you how to do what it is you sought out to do - professional vs. newbie guides are irrelevant.
+Let's be honest for a second; In this business what separates professionals from newbies are that professionals call themselves professionals and ask for money. I've been to enough places where people who claim to have 25+ years of experience are opening an iFixit guide to fix something, and I smack them on the head for removing the keyboard/trackpad/battery/ram cover to replace the lcd screen same as I would anyone else. "Professionals" all too often are as clueless as someone who has never opened a machine, and they need guides telling them what to do as much as anyone else.There should be guides that tell you how to do what it is you sought out to do - professional vs. newbie guides are irrelevant.
There are professionals reflowing/reballing GPUs and calling it repair, professionals who advertise 20 years of experience who think "diskwarrior" actually FIXES DISKS and not just partitions who destroy potentially recoverable data. Professional is a silly word in a business with no standard or metric for its members.
-Back to there being only one answer. One point Jessa frequently points out in our conversations is the importance of having a repair elementary school, vs a college. I see this very simply. I see "i spilled water on my board, tried a new keyboard, tried cleaning it and it does not turn on, where do I start?" I can give one of two answers here. I can start with "Too difficult, you probably don't have the tools or the brains for this. Sorry." Or I can give the real answerl "Is ppbus_g3h showing 12.6v? is PP3V42_G3H coming on?" there is the third way which is to ignore it, but that defeats the purpose of an answers section.
+Back to there being only one answer. One point Jessa frequently points out in our conversations is the importance of having a repair elementary school, vs a college. I see this very simply. I see "i spilled water on my board, tried a new keyboard, tried cleaning it and it does not turn on, where do I start?" I can give one of two answers here. I can start with "Too difficult, you probably don't have the tools or the brains for this. Sorry." Or I can give the real answerl "Find a boardview and a schematic online so we can work together. Find these voltages on the schematic and see where they show up on the boardview: s ppbus_g3h showing 12.6v? is PP3V42_G3H coming on at 3.42v?" there is the third way which is to ignore it, but that defeats the purpose of an answers section.You need to know what a multimeter is here, you need to know where to find schematics(and for obvious reasons a public company like iFixit should NEVER be hosting them).
-If someone doesn't want to take on the job, I absolutely, completely understand. At the same time, it doesn't change the content of the answer.
+If someone doesn't want to take on the job, I absolutely, completely understand. At the same time, it doesn't change the content of the answer. Someone may not like that they asked a difficult question, but the answer itself is no less difficult.
What WOULD be useful are guides so that I don't have to point out what a resistor is, what a multimeter is, etc, in each post. I can get to the root of someone's problem quickly, but to go over what voltage is on each post would be horrifying in the length of the answers. I would write this but making educational texts isn't fun enough to do for free.
I remember the end of 2008 very well. I couldn't be trusted to remove RAM from a laptop without blowing it up. If the guide I had followed were more to the point, and the part at a reasonable price, I would have never looked elsewhere. What interested me about the future of iFixit is the idea of one place for people to get everything - an ecosystem that does not require looking elsewhere. That would be an industry disrupter, and I am all for industry disruption if it improves it.

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Original post by: zzz

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I understand what's discussed, but I don't see the point in professional vs. newbie sections.

There is 2 + 2 = 4 - the answer is the same to a 3 year old as it is to a PhD. You can have a guide on how to replace an LCD assembly, and a guide on how to replace the LCD by itself. So long as each guide is efficient and to the point, there need not be a separate guide for newbies. A newbie can choose to perform the easier(albeit more expensive) job, but it is still the same procedure.

Let's be honest for a second; In this business what separates professionals from newbies are that professionals call themselves professionals and ask for money. I've been to enough places where people who claim to have 25+ years of experience are opening an iFixit guide to fix something, and I smack them on the head for removing the keyboard/trackpad/battery/ram cover to replace the lcd screen same as I would anyone else. There should be guides that tell you how to do what it is you sought out to do - professional vs. newbie guides are irrelevant.

There are professionals reflowing/reballing GPUs and calling it repair, professionals who advertise 20 years of experience who think "diskwarrior" actually FIXES DISKS and not just partitions who destroy potentially recoverable data. Professional is a silly word in a business with no standard or metric for its members.

Back to there being only one answer. One point Jessa frequently points out in our conversations is the importance of having a repair elementary school, vs a college.  I see this very simply. I see "i spilled water on my board, tried a new keyboard, tried cleaning it and it does not turn on, where do I start?" I can give one of two answers here. I can start with "Too difficult, you probably don't have the tools or the brains for this. Sorry."  Or I can give the real answerl "Is ppbus_g3h showing 12.6v? is PP3V42_G3H coming on?" there is the third way which is to ignore it, but that defeats the purpose of an answers section.

If someone doesn't want to take on the job, I absolutely, completely understand. At the same time, it doesn't change the content of the answer.

What WOULD be useful are guides so that I don't have to point out what a resistor is, what a multimeter is, etc, in each post. I can get to the root of someone's problem quickly, but to go over what voltage is on each post would be horrifying in the length of the answers. I would write this but making educational texts isn't fun enough to do for free.

I remember the end of 2008 very well. I couldn't be trusted to remove RAM from a laptop without blowing it up. If the guide I had followed were more to the point, and the part at a reasonable price, I would have never looked elsewhere. What interested me about the future of iFixit is the idea of one place for people to get everything - an ecosystem that does not require looking elsewhere. That would be an industry disrupter, and I am all for industry disruption if it improves it.

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