@mayer I fundamentally agree with you. Here is one of my comments from a similar discussions we had on [post|6408]
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"fixit is a commercial site that allows us to be part of a growing movement. We should honor this and assist fixit, as a commercial enterprise, to succeed. Why not get fixit into selling the tools that are needed for the repairs, i.e. recall stations (LCD separators ;-) logic board vises and rework stations?""That is the direction I would love to see this go. This needs to happen without turning "Answers" into a "wee wee contest" of the commonly found "my tool is bigger and better than your tool"." Do I believe that fixit provides a great service? Absolutely. Do I believe fixit should financially benefit from this and experience and economic growth? Absolutely. The decision of where fixit wants to go, belongs to @kyle. He alone knows what he needs to do with this (well maybe with input from his board of directors ;-)
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"fixit is a commercial site that allows us to be part of a growing movement. We should honor this and assist fixit, as a commercial enterprise, to succeed. Why not get fixit into selling the tools that are needed for the repairs, i.e. recall stations (LCD separators ;-) logic board vises and rework stations?""That is the direction I would love to see this go. This needs to happen without turning "Answers" into a "wee wee contest" of the commonly found "my tool is bigger and better than your tool"." Do I believe that iFixit provides a great service? Absolutely. Do I believe iFixit should financially benefit from this and experience and economic growth? Absolutely. The decision of where iFixit wants to go, belongs to @kyle. He alone knows what he needs to do with this (well maybe with input from his board of directors ;-)
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I still support the original fixit mission as outlined amongst other place [https://www.ifixit.com/Info/why|right here.] I will continue to do so until the day I get either kicked off or decide to retire. I have always loved the idea of getting devices out of peoples proverbial kitchen "junk drawer" and make them useful again. I am talking about devices like Xboxes (original and 360) as well as PS2 PS3 etc. How many phone 5s and 6s have you seen in an landfill etc? Bet not to many. I am convinced that there is a whole lot of people out there that do not have the financial means to upgrade their phones, game consoles etc as often as we think. It should be our goal to help keeping those going.
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I still support the original iFixit mission as outlined amongst other place [https://www.ifixit.com/Info/why|right here.] I will continue to do so until the day I get either kicked off or decide to retire. I have always loved the idea of getting devices out of peoples proverbial kitchen "junk drawer" and make them useful again. I am talking about devices like Xboxes (original and 360) as well as PS2 PS3 etc. How many phone 5s and 6s have you seen in an landfill etc? Bet not to many. I am convinced that there is a whole lot of people out there that do not have the financial means to upgrade their phones, game consoles etc as often as we think. It should be our goal to help keeping those going.
Okay I am over my ranting about the social aspect of repair and repurposing.
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I think @mayer that you are on to something that could work but don't make it a goal for fixit. Make it ours. Why not come up with a viable idea and then let fixit run with it? Develop a tool, part or technique that will enable a better repair. Using the old Nike slogan "Just do it". Why wait for others to develop it? It is people like you as well as all the [http://pro.ifixit.com/#pro|other pro's] that know what is needed. So design, develop and build it. Then get with fixit and see if this will be something they might be interested in. Let the smart people like @kaykay @rachel and all the other great people on fixit do the market research. May be a survey monkey questionnaire would work. Something that would determine what devices people are really using and which once they would like to get repaired. Let's find out what is really out there and make it a global perspective. How about reverse engineering the GoPro cameras? Ever seen a schematic for one of those out there? How about checking into the failure of the PS4 power supply? How about trying to find a fix for that? You bet we could keep that out of landfills and out of the slums of India and Africa where they are being dumped. Thanks to @tronicsfix for sending me a couple so that I, a mere volunteer, can at least get some x-rays and check traces and components. Do you think offering a service like that would increase traffic to fixit and thus open up more of the market? Throw a couple of schematics and parts list out there and I bet you get plenty of traffic. Yet it still supports the original intend of fixit and thus would have my full support.
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I think @mayer that you are on to something that could work but don't make it a goal for iFixit. Make it ours. Why not come up with a viable idea and then let iFixit run with it? Develop a tool, part or technique that will enable a better repair. Using the old Nike slogan "Just do it". Why wait for others to develop it? It is people like you as well as all the [http://pro.ifixit.com/#pro|other pro's] that know what is needed. So design, develop and build it. Then get with iFixit and see if this will be something they might be interested in. Let the smart people like @kaykay @rachel and all the other great people on iFixit do the market research. May be a survey monkey questionnaire would work. Something that would determine what devices people are really using and which once they would like to get repaired. Let's find out what is really out there and make it a global perspective. How about reverse engineering the GoPro cameras? Ever seen a schematic for one of those out there? How about checking into the failure of the PS4 power supply? How about trying to find a fix for that? You bet we could keep that out of landfills and out of the slums of India and Africa where they are being dumped. Thanks to @tronicsfix for sending me a couple so that I, a mere volunteer, can at least get some x-rays and check traces and components. Do you think offering a service like that would increase traffic to iFixit and thus open up more of the market? Throw a couple of schematics and parts list out there and I bet you get plenty of traffic. Yet it still supports the original intend of iFixit and thus would have my full support.
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As volunteers, the only thing we can do is drive traffic to the business of fixit. For that we need to continue to provide quality answers.
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As volunteers, the only thing we can do is drive traffic to the business of iFixit. For that we need to continue to provide quality answers.
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Darn brother I think I am way off on a tangent here. That's what happens when you start working with NGO's about corporate social responsibility :-) Good thing I am not a bleeding heart liberal. Thanks to @kyle and his great team for letting me use this space as my soapbox :-))
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Darn brother I think I am way off on a tangent here. That's what happens when you start working with NGO's on corporate social responsibility :-) Good thing I am not a bleeding heart liberal. Thanks to @kyle and his great team for letting me use this space as my soapbox :-))
@mayer I fundamentally agree with you. Here is one of my comments from a similar discussions we had on [post|6408]
"fixit is a commercial site that allows us to be part of a growing movement. We should honor this and assist fixit, as a commercial enterprise, to succeed. Why not get fixit into selling the tools that are needed for the repairs, i.e. recall stations (LCD separators ;-) logic board vises and rework stations?""That is the direction I would love to see this go. This needs to happen without turning "Answers" into a "wee wee contest" of the commonly found "my tool is bigger and better than your tool"." Do I believe that fixit provides a great service? Absolutely. Do I believe fixit should financially benefit from this and experience and economic growth? Absolutely. The decision of where fixit wants to go, belongs to @kyle. He alone knows what he needs to do with this (well maybe with input from his board of directors ;-)
I still support the original fixit mission as outlined amongst other place [https://www.ifixit.com/Info/why|right here.] I will continue to do so until the day I get either kicked off or decide to retire. I have always loved the idea of getting devices out of peoples proverbial kitchen "junk drawer" and make them useful again. I am talking about devices like Xboxes (original and 360) as well as PS2 PS3 etc. How many phone 5s and 6s have you seen in an landfill etc? Bet not to many. I am convinced that there is a whole lot of people out there that do not have the financial means to upgrade their phones, game consoles etc as often as we think. It should be our goal to help keeping those going.
Okay I am over my ranting about the social aspect of repair and repurposing.
I think @mayer that you are on to something that could work but don't make it a goal for fixit. Make it ours. Why not come up with a viable idea and then let fixit run with it? Develop a tool, part or technique that will enable a better repair. Using the old Nike slogan "Just do it". Why wait for others to develop it? It is people like you as well as all the [http://pro.ifixit.com/#pro|other pro's] that know what is needed. So design, develop and build it. Then get with fixit and see if this will be something they might be interested in. Let the smart people like @kaykay @rachel and all the other great people on fixit do the market research. May be a survey monkey questionnaire would work. Something that would determine what devices people are really using and which once they would like to get repaired. Let's find out what is really out there and make it a global perspective. How about reverse engineering the GoPro cameras? Ever seen a schematic for one of those out there? How about checking into the failure of the PS4 power supply? How about trying to find a fix for that? You bet we could keep that out of landfills and out of the slums of India and Africa where they are being dumped. Thanks to @tronicsfix for sending me a couple so that I, a mere volunteer, can at least get some x-rays and check traces and components. Do you think offering a service like that would increase traffic to fixit and thus open up more of the market? Throw a couple of schematics and parts list out there and I bet you get plenty of traffic. Yet it still supports the original intend of fixit and thus would have my full support.
As volunteers, the only thing we can do is drive traffic to the business of fixit. For that we need to continue to provide quality answers.
Darn brother I think I am way off on a tangent here. That's what happens when you start working with NGO's about corporate social responsibility :-) Good thing I am not a bleeding heart liberal. Thanks to @kyle and his great team for letting me use this space as my soapbox :-))
