I agree with OT here. What you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
Their suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles their systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
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Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C''' here and most of the others likewise.
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Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''D''' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials that don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here. What you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
Their suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles their systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C''' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
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While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
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While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials that don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here. What you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
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Their suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
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Their suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles their systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C''' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
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I agree with OT here. What you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
-
There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
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Their suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C''' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
-
There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
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There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are a very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C''' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
-
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C'' here and most of the others likewise.
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Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C''' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
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I see the issue in five frameworks:
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I see the issue in five areas:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C'' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder and the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
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I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder as the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five frameworks:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C'' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
Good Question!
I agree with OT here what you already have can be the greenest if you upgrade the subsystems as you need to. Sadly, this is getting harder and the newer systems are getting harder to upgrade ;-{
I see the issue in five frameworks:
* Physical Plant
* Design
* Material Choices
* Recycling
'''Physical Plant'''
So far Apple has made it their mission to be as green as it can be. While they maybe making great strides on having their corporate buildings as energy efficient as possible and using green materials. I don't know of any other company that has put so much into it.
There suppliers of raw materials as well as who assembles there systems (contract manufacturers) are very different picture! Apple claims it is now pushing their contract manufactures and material suppliers into better practices. So we'll need to wait a bit to see what comes of this.
The other companies as well don't assemble or even make the components in their products. None have offered any data on their efforts on being green or even being more energy efficient so I guess Apple gets the ribbon here from a corporate perspective.
'''Design'''
Sadly all of the manufactures are rushing to less repairable designs. As an example the new MacBook is very close to a throwaway computer! It is not expandable and limited in repairability. I give Apple a '''C'' here and most of the others likewise.
'''Material Choices'''
While Apple has been the most vocal on using materials with don't have Lead or Arsenic. Most of the other companies are likewise moving away from using materials which have proven to be poisonous. The other issue is the chemicals used to make the parts are often environmentally dangerous as well as harmful to the factory workers. So far this is still a big problem across all of the companies. All get an '''F''' here.
'''Recycling'''
This is a hard one to rate as most of the companies don't do it as they don't have store fronts or a means to collect returned outdated equipment when a new system is bought. They depend on the resellers to do it. Apple Stores do offer recycling rebates but they pass the hardware to a 3rd party to dispose.
