Wow gone for two months and your starting a school . What else has been going on while I was gone. Well Id like to through in my two cents if its still welcome. Standardization ... there is none , at least not here in Canada. we have it in all the other industries like auto repair, accounting, cooking , nursing just to name a few here in Canada, Red Seals are the industry standard . I have a Red Seal in heavy truck repair and with that I can get a job fixing trucks anywhere in Canada. All an employer needs to know is I have that cert with the Red Seal and its given that I received the same training in Ontario as a another mechanic from Alberta . Theres a standard in most other disciplines here as well . That is until you get to computer repair or IT work in general. I personally have a Cisco A+ certification which 10 years ago was a big deal but now its just big deal so what . Now there CompTIA A+ Certification , which breaks down into about twenty sub categories. My son has 4 years of IT engineering his cert "degree " is referred to as CTNY which can be broken down into CT ,CTN and CTNY. depending on how much time you put in . Go to a different collage or university and its called something else . There is no standard ,no red seal in IT, at least not here. And as far a apple ,Mac are concerned. there classes are usually side notes . I learned more from @mayer and @danj than any of my teachers . My sons schooling was the same next to nothing was said about Macs . I work now in Robotic farm equipment and have just recently branched of into mining as well which is why I havent been around for a while ..but that's another story.. I recently had to hire new help for a job site and I wanted IT experience and some kind of experience with pneumatic and hydraulics. Common assets for work with robots. I interviewed over 20 applicants . The number of certificates I saw for the same kind of education were unreal . I had to google most of them to find out if they were actual certs. It was without a doubt one of the most frustrating things Ive ever had to sort through . I ended up making a test to test the knowledge level of ones I called back for a second interview . I had one fellow that had a BA in computer engineering. and he didnt have a clue how to assemble a computer. My experience left me with one good employee and two that I let go as soon as we returned , but I still had to try to get along for two months with help that should have and could have been better if there had been some sort of standardized teaching along the way . I do have to admit my field right now is sort of a nitch market.
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Wow gone for two months and your starting a school . What else has been going on while I was gone. Well Id like to throw in my two cents if its still welcome. Standardization ... there is none , at least not here in Canada. we have it in all the other industries like auto repair, accounting, cooking , nursing just to name a few here in Canada, Red Seals are the industry standard . I have a Red Seal in heavy truck repair and with that I can get a job fixing trucks anywhere in Canada. All an employer needs to know is I have that cert with the Red Seal and its given that I received the same training in Ontario as a another mechanic from Alberta . Theres a standard in most other disciplines here as well . That is until you get to computer repair or IT work in general. I personally have a Cisco A+ certification which 10 years ago was a big deal but now its just big deal so what . Now there CompTIA A+ Certification , which breaks down into about twenty sub categories. My son has 4 years of IT engineering his cert "degree " is referred to as CTNY which can be broken down into CT ,CTN and CTNY. depending on how much time you put in . Go to a different collage or university and its called something else . There is no standard ,no red seal in IT, at least not here. And as far a apple ,Mac are concerned. there classes are usually side notes . I learned more from @mayer and @danj than any of my teachers . My sons schooling was the same next to nothing was said about Macs . I work now in Robotic farm equipment and have just recently branched of into mining as well which is why I havent been around for a while ..but that's another story.. I recently had to hire new help for a job site and I wanted IT experience and some kind of experience with pneumatic and hydraulics. Common assets for work with robots. I interviewed over 20 applicants . The number of certificates I saw for the same kind of education were unreal . I had to google most of them to find out if they were actual certs. It was without a doubt one of the most frustrating things Ive ever had to sort through . I ended up making a test to test the knowledge level of ones I called back for a second interview . I had one fellow that had a BA in computer engineering. and he didnt have a clue how to assemble a computer. My experience left me with one good employee and two that I let go as soon as we returned , but I still had to try to get along for two months with help that should have and could have been better if there had been some sort of standardized teaching along the way . I do have to admit my field right now is sort of a nitch market.
Standardizing, making a consistent learning experience in IT , Mac repair , networking will eventually happen . It will take people like you,@mayer @danj , @kyle and @jessabethany to get it done . This isn't that young a field anymore and should have some sort of consistency to its teaching . Yet here we are still struggling along .
IT is such a broad field and constantly growing . I try to stay current in as much as I can but what I know compared to what my son knows is so vastly different . His field is rendering movies and doing server work having huge arrays or storage and digital projection . My field is in command response and laser referencing , robot location awareness , proximity sensors . We both started from the same basic point but had to learn on our own because really the only way to get anywhere in IT is to constantly be bettering yourself. The Old dog has to continue to learn new tricks or else hes just an old dog.
Its nice to be home and be back online , hope to here from you all in the coming days . Good luck with your school .
P.S. Just a side note to @mayer did you ever get that irrigation system app working . If so I now may have an application for it . The work Ive been doing the past 2 month is in a dust suppression system in a mine. Very similar to irrigation in a way
Wow gone for two months and your starting a school . What else has been going on while I was gone. Well Id like to through in my two cents if its still welcome. Standardization ... there is none , at least not here in Canada. we have it in all the other industries like auto repair, accounting, cooking , nursing just to name a few here in Canada, Red Seals are the industry standard . I have a Red Seal in heavy truck repair and with that I can get a job fixing trucks anywhere in Canada. All an employer needs to know is I have that cert with the Red Seal and its given that I received the same training in Ontario as a another mechanic from Alberta . Theres a standard in most other disciplines here as well . That is until you get to computer repair or IT work in general. I personally have a Cisco A+ certification which 10 years ago was a big deal but now its just big deal so what . Now there CompTIA A+ Certification , which breaks down into about twenty sub categories. My son has 4 years of IT engineering his cert "degree " is referred to as CTNY which can be broken down into CT ,CTN and CTNY. depending on how much time you put in . Go to a different collage or university and its called something else . There is no standard ,no red seal in IT, at least not here. And as far a apple ,Mac are concerned. there classes are usually side notes . I learned more from @mayer and @danj than any of my teachers . My sons schooling was the same next to nothing was said about Macs . I work now in Robotic farm equipment and have just recently branched of into mining as well which is why I havent been around for a while ..but that's another story.. I recently had to hire new help for a job site and I wanted IT experience and some kind of experience with pneumatic and hydraulics. Common assets for work with robots. I interviewed over 20 applicants . The number of certificates I saw for the same kind of education were unreal . I had to google most of them to find out if they were actual certs. It was without a doubt one of the most frustrating things Ive ever had to sort through . I ended up making a test to test the knowledge level of ones I called back for a second interview . I had one fellow that had a BA in computer engineering. and he didnt have a clue how to assemble a computer. My experience left me with one good employee and two that I let go as soon as we returned , but I still had to try to get along for two months with help that should have and could have been better if there had been some sort of standardized teaching along the way . I do have to admit my field right now is sort of a nitch market.
Standardizing, making a consistent learning experience in IT , Mac repair , networking will eventually happen . It will take people like you,@mayer @danj , @kyle and @jessabethany to get it done . This isn't that young a field anymore and should have some sort of consistency to its teaching . Yet here we are still struggling along .
IT is such a broad field and constantly growing . I try to stay current in as much as I can but what I know compared to what my son knows is so vastly different . His field is rendering movies and doing server work having huge arrays or storage and digital projection . My field is in command response and laser referencing , robot location awareness , proximity sensors . We both started from the same basic point but had to learn on our own because really the only way to get anywhere in IT is to constantly be bettering yourself. The Old dog has to continue to learn new tricks or else hes just an old dog.
Its nice to be home and be back online , hope to here from you all in the coming days . Good luck with your school .
P.S. Just a side note to @mayer did you ever get that irrigation system app working . If so I now may have an application for it . The work Ive been doing the past 2 month is in a dust suppression system in a mine. Very similar to irrigation in a way
