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Title:

Linux Laptop 2008-2012 changelog

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
+'''Translators: I am finished with this guide in it's entirety. At this point translation is now more ideal. With that being said I still DO NOT recommend translating System Selection yet - the system I picked has (very) expensive problems and I need to weigh out if I want to find a new laptop or spend the money on these potentially expensive repairs. I'm probably going to end up changing out the hardware because it's likely going to go over my 40-50% threshold I use to gauge if a device is worth repairing.'''
-~~'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''~~
+'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I shouldn't release this guide with how long it took to work one (2 years) please give this guide a chance. Most of the problems I am having are related to finding good hardware. I also had a lot of issues with content as this was a guide I nearly abandoned in 2014 when I flagged it for deletion, which was never accepted. That's why I began to rework it in 2015; it was going to sit there dead otherwise.'''
-'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly.
+'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly. With that being said, this is a reduction of 10k since it was 30k before this change.
-So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
+So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After a through cleanup of the original content (most of the content was too far gone, original or content I tried to retain but had too many problems doing so with). Now that that part is fixed, this guide is now ready for release. I also had to deal with two bad systems as well, since the original system (HP IQ506) had expensive problems that weren't worth fixing.
-Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
+I also wanted to release wireless testing information, but this was one of the ideas I ended up giving up on. This would become difficult to maintain, so I didn't bother releasing with this content for publishing time. I also waited until Debian 9 came out because of this idea that never came to happen.
-While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
+I'm not 100% done on the pictures, but I am done with the text content. I still need pictures for HDD/New, while most of the other steps I'd like to do this with are wishlist items (i.e. new pictures would be nice, but aren't needed). I'd also like to take some of my own pictures for the AMD processor step, because I borrowed a picture from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide] because I needed something quickly. I also don't think it's worth buying a laptop just for one picture, even if it's broken.
-As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
+As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. The first release was a mess and took too long and had to be pulled back because I released it incomplete. The second release is what I should have put out but neglected to do because I felt like it took too long and a incomplete guide with a lot of problems was better then a non-release. It is now at 100% completion for text, but not pictures.
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it as a private guide. It will remain private until I fix the major problems and have a near perfect release.
I don't plan on giving Toshiba an inch, so do not ask about including them with a specific mention in ANY PART of this guide. I am not testing Toshiba hardware to any extent, even for a whitelist.
The main things I want to focus on are cleanup and per line character reduction. I also want to consolidate the guide warnings and remove any redundancy as well.
When I get around to making the Desktop guide, I will port the main content that I can share to that guide and adjust certain lines accordingly as most content is shareable, but may need to be adapted.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Reworded most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
== 9/22/17 ==
* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.
+
== 9/23/17 ==
+
* Made the final changes.
* Ready for re-release.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Linux Laptop 2008-2012 changelog

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
~~'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''~~
'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly.
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it as a private guide. It will remain private until I fix the major problems and have a near perfect release.
I don't plan on giving Toshiba an inch, so do not ask about including them with a specific mention in ANY PART of this guide. I am not testing Toshiba hardware to any extent, even for a whitelist.
The main things I want to focus on are cleanup and per line character reduction. I also want to consolidate the guide warnings and remove any redundancy as well.
When I get around to making the Desktop guide, I will port the main content that I can share to that guide and adjust certain lines accordingly as most content is shareable, but may need to be adapted.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Reworded most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
== 9/22/17 ==
-* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.
+* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.
+== 9/23/17 ==
+* Made the final changes.
+* Ready for re-release.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Linux Laptop 2008-2012 changelog

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
~~'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''~~
'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly.
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it as a private guide. It will remain private until I fix the major problems and have a near perfect release.
I don't plan on giving Toshiba an inch, so do not ask about including them with a specific mention in ANY PART of this guide. I am not testing Toshiba hardware to any extent, even for a whitelist.
The main things I want to focus on are cleanup and per line character reduction. I also want to consolidate the guide warnings and remove any redundancy as well.
When I get around to making the Desktop guide, I will port the main content that I can share to that guide and adjust certain lines accordingly as most content is shareable, but may need to be adapted.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Reworded most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
-'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
-
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
== 9/22/17 ==
* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.

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Title:

Linux Laptop 2008-2012 changelog

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
-'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
+~~'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''~~
'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly.
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it as a private guide. It will remain private until I fix the major problems and have a near perfect release.
I don't plan on giving Toshiba an inch, so do not ask about including them with a specific mention in ANY PART of this guide. I am not testing Toshiba hardware to any extent, even for a whitelist.
The main things I want to focus on are cleanup and per line character reduction. I also want to consolidate the guide warnings and remove any redundancy as well.
When I get around to making the Desktop guide, I will port the main content that I can share to that guide and adjust certain lines accordingly as most content is shareable, but may need to be adapted.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Reworded most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
== 9/22/17 ==
* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.

Discussion Topic:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

-Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)
+Linux Laptop 2008-2012 changelog

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly.
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it as a private guide. It will remain private until I fix the major problems and have a near perfect release.
+
I don't plan on giving Toshiba an inch, so do not ask about including them with a specific mention in ANY PART of this guide. I am not testing Toshiba hardware to any extent, even for a whitelist.
+
The main things I want to focus on are cleanup and per line character reduction. I also want to consolidate the guide warnings and remove any redundancy as well.
+
When I get around to making the Desktop guide, I will port the main content that I can share to that guide and adjust certain lines accordingly as most content is shareable, but may need to be adapted.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Reworded most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
== 9/22/17 ==
* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
-'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
+'''Non patrol threshold advisory:''' Since this isn't a standard guide, I have set the required reputation for automatic acceptance to 20k. This is not a deterrent - it is a countermeasure against bad edits since this guide isn't like my other guides. You can edit it but this just means someone who has 20k+ reputation will need to approve your edit. This is simply a special case that justifies a reputation that's impractical for the average user to attain quickly.
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
-I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
-
-I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
+I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it as a private guide. It will remain private until I fix the major problems and have a near perfect release.
+I don't plan on giving Toshiba an inch, so do not ask about including them with a specific mention in ANY PART of this guide. I am not testing Toshiba hardware to any extent, even for a whitelist.
+The main things I want to focus on are cleanup and per line character reduction. I also want to consolidate the guide warnings and remove any redundancy as well.
+When I get around to making the Desktop guide, I will port the main content that I can share to that guide and adjust certain lines accordingly as most content is shareable, but may need to be adapted.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
-* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
+* Reworded most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
+
== 9/22/17 ==
+
* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
* General text thinning.
-* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
+* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)
+== 9/22/17 ==
+* Working on the remaining issues. Most of these are minor, but some of them are major.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
== 9/21/17 ==
* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
-* General text thinning.
+* General text thinning.
+* Restructured the steps to disable Optimus. This is worded more as a step by step guide on how to deal with these features. (Dell/Lenovo)

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
== 9/20/17 ==
* General text thinning
* Removal of unconfirmed information
+
== 9/21/17 ==
-* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
+
+* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.
+* General text thinning.

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
== 9/18/17 ==
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
+
== 9/20/17 ==
+
* General text thinning
-* Removal of unconfirmed information
+* Removal of unconfirmed information
+== 9/21/17 ==
+* Fixed an card listing mistake in the IGP step.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
+
== 9/18/17 ==
+
I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
-* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
+
+* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.
+== 9/20/17 ==
+* General text thinning
+* Removal of unconfirmed information

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
-* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
+* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.
+== 9/18/17 ==
+I am down to 8 lines with major issues to fix. Once I get past these troublesome lines I should be ready for re-release :-)
+* Fat trimming to reduce per step character count.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
-== 9/7/17 ==
+== 9/17/17 ==
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
+
== 9/7/17 ==
+
* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
-*
+* Fat trimming to reduce the character count per step.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
== 9/7/17 ==
-* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons.
+* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons. If someone asked in an answer I'd have no problem explaining it, but I can't provide enough context to get the average user to fully understand what they are doing.
*

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
+
I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
+
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
-* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
+* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.
+== 9/7/17 ==
+* Removed information on how modifiable BIOSes are from the WLAN/WL step. I don't want the average user trying to use modified BIOSes to fix the problem for obvious reasons.
+*

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
== 9/16/17 ==
-
+I am beginning to do the final revisions before I release the guide to clear any final issues up that I may have missed before. Everything else is done at this point (or is as close to done as I can manage).
* WIP lines down to 0.
* 128GB SSD final.
* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
+
== 9/16/17 ==
-* WIP lines down to 1.
-* 128GB SSD final.
+
+* WIP lines down to 0.
+* 128GB SSD final.
+* Dual GPU laptop warning revised.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
-* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
+* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.
+== 9/16/17 ==
+* WIP lines down to 1.
+* 128GB SSD final.

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
-* Reduced WIP lines down to 3.
+* Reduced WIP lines down to 2.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
== 9/15/17 ==
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
-* Reduced WIP lines down to 4.
+* Reduced WIP lines down to 3.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
+
== 9/15/17 ==
+
* Final cleanup before release is considered.
* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
-* Reduced WIP lines down to 5.
+* Reduced WIP lines down to 4.

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
-* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
+* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.
+== 9/15/17 ==
+* Final cleanup before release is considered.
+* Finishing any remaining WIP lines.
+* Made Disable Secure Boot final again.
+* Reduced WIP lines down to 5.

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
-Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|convoluted] AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
+Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|convoluted] how AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
-Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|convoluted] AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list].
+
+Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|convoluted] AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list]. Here is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors|simple] getting a processor list for AMD mobile platforms is.
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
+Here is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_accelerated_processing_unit_microprocessors#Desktop_APUs|hint] how [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_FM1|convoluted] AMD platforms are. Also, this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors#K10_core_architecture|where I had to start to find a processor list].
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
-'''Read me: The Desktop guide may be abandoned. AMD cannot simplify their desktop processor line to an extent I can't even figure out how it works. At least their mobile processors are easy to handle. If this turns out to be a nightmare for the desktop guide I am DONE.'''
+'''Read me: The Desktop guide for 2008-2012 is abandoned. I'm going to wait a little bit before I make a desktop oriented guide since 2008-2012 is a nightmare for covering AMD.'''
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
-'''Read me: The Desktop guide may be abandoned. AMD cannot simplify their desktop processor line to an extent I can't even figure out how it works. At least their mobile processors are easy to handle.'''
+
+'''Read me: The Desktop guide may be abandoned. AMD cannot simplify their desktop processor line to an extent I can't even figure out how it works. At least their mobile processors are easy to handle. If this turns out to be a nightmare for the desktop guide I am DONE.'''
+
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
-
+'''Read me: The Desktop guide may be abandoned. AMD cannot simplify their desktop processor line to an extent I can't even figure out how it works. At least their mobile processors are easy to handle.'''
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
-* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
+* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.
+* (Laptop) Fixed a mistake where I put the processor inclusion line in (Oops!)
+* (Laptop) Added Radeon 7000M/G Series.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
* General final refinements.
-* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 10.
+* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 8. These remaining 8 WIP lines have major changes.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
* General final refinements.
-* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 13.
+* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 10.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
-* (Laptop) Reference UI BIOS reverted to WIP.
+* (Laptop) Reference UI Secure Boot BIOS disable reverted to WIP.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
* General final refinements.
-* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 14.
+* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 13.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI BIOS reverted to WIP.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
* General final refinements.
-* WIP note added to individual lines as needed.
+* WIP note added to individual lines as needed. I have waited some time after giving it the designation to overlook the designated lines and cleared it from 23 to 14.
* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
* (Laptop) Reference UI BIOS reverted to WIP.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
-'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
+'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
== 9/13/17 ==
+
* General final refinements.
* WIP note added to individual lines as needed.
-* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
+* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.
+* (Laptop) Reference UI BIOS reverted to WIP.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
-'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
+
+'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''
+
+== 9/13/17 ==
+* General final refinements.
+* WIP note added to individual lines as needed.
+* (Laptop) Dell DMI/Business final revisions.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
-* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
+* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.
+'''Potential release date (THIS MAY CHANGE): 9/15/17'''

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
-* (Both) SSD is almost final.
+* (Both) SSD is final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
-* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
+* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is almost final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
-* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
+* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.
+* (Laptop) Started the Dell DMI BIOS Optimus step. I still may not complete it but I'd rather start it just in case.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is almost final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
-* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
+* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.
+* (Desktop) Brought the age recommendation up and into parity.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is almost final.
* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
-* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
+* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.
+* (Desktop) Brought the time variation per system up to to parity with the Laptop guide.

Discussion Topic:

Yes

Status:

open

Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
* (Both) SSD is almost final.
-* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
+* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.
+* (Desktop) Brought the mobile app note into parity with the Laptop guide.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
-* (Both) SSD is almost final.
+* (Both) SSD is almost final.
+* (Both) Changed the intel-microcode to optional but recommended instead of being the other way.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
== 9/12/17 ==
* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
-* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
+* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.
+* (Both) SSD is almost final.

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
== 9/11/17 ==
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
+
== 9/12/17 ==
-* (Laptop) legacy BIOS almost final.
+
+* (Laptop) legacy BIOS drive warning is almost final.
* (Laptop) RAM is final.
* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.

Discussion Topic:

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Status:

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
== 9/10/17 ==
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
+
== 9/11/17 ==
+
* (Laptop) More revisions.
* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
-* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
+* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.
+== 9/12/17 ==
+* (Laptop) legacy BIOS almost final.
+* (Laptop) RAM is final.
+* (Laptop) HDD/Used is final.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
+
== 9/10/17 ==
+
In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
+
* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
-* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
+* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.
+== 9/11/17 ==
+* (Laptop) More revisions.
+* (Laptop) More steps being finalized.
+* (Laptop) RAM is almost final.
+* (Laptop) SSD is almost final.
+* (Laptop) HDD/Used changed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
-* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
+* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.
+== 9/10/17 ==
+In my effort to get as much done just in case Irma does a lot of damage, I have gotten this much done:
+* (Both) I have updated the Legacy BIOS hard drive addressing warning.
+* (Laptop) A lot of steps were considered final today. Any appropriate changes were carried to the Desktop guide as they were made. 10 steps are now considered finalized. 9 steps are still WIP but many of them should be pushed to final status soon. I made too many changes to quickly look at these last 9 steps to quickly determine they are more or less completed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
-I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from a hurricane. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
+I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from Hurricane Irma. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
== Update (9/8/17) ==
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from a hurricane. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
-* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
+* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.
+* (Both) The Media step has been changed to discourage DVD use unless you have no choice).
+* (Both) The secure Boot disable steps have been split into three sections, instead of two.
+* (Laptop) I have added a place for Dell DMI BIOS Optimus management. I may not end up using it, but it's there if I need it.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
+
== Update (9/8/17) ==
+
I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from a hurricane. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
+
+I am still having issues with the ThinkPad in terms of finding a fan to try and fix the cooling issues. My second fan came, but it doesn't fit.
+
Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
+
* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
-* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
+* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.
+== Update (9/8/17) ==
+I may not be able to work on this for a while, so I am pushing as much as I can out while I am ahead. I am in an area of the state I live in where I will at least be affected by the wind (and likely some rain) from a hurricane. Hopefully nothing serious happens, but I'm not sure yet. I anticipate the worst that will probably happen is minor property damage.
+Anyway, back to the changes I have made:
+* (Both) I have WIP and the reason I consider it WIP in the title. I am doing this for tracking purposes, so I at least know where each step stands in terms of being complete. Most steps are under the (Almost done) category, but some needed enough rework that it didn't get that label or I have a specific reason for not considering it almost finished. If the step does not have such a mark, it should be assumed complete.
+* (Laptop) I started overhauling the Desktop hard drive step, since this is still a partial tester for good ideas. I take good ideas from the laptop guide and incorporate it into the Desktop guide and then take the ideas I like from the Desktop guide to port them to the Laptop guide.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
-* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
+* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).
+* (Laptop and Desktop) Removed the processor brand from the lines in the processor steps. It's in the line title, so this doesn't need to be there.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
Some changes I have made so far:
-* Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
-* Rewored most steps in a major way.
+* (Laptop) Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
+* Rewored most steps in a major way. (Most shared between the Laptop and Desktop guide, but I am making tweaks per guide to match up the content).
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
-== Update (9/5/17) ==
+== Update (9/5/17-9/6/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
-I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
+I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
+
Some changes I have made so far:
+
* Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
* Rewored most steps in a major way.
* Text thinning.
* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
-I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
+I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.
+Some changes I have made so far:
+* Dropped the Pentium T4 Series processor listing. Replaced with Pentium (SB/IB) because the T4 series is on the way out.
+* Rewored most steps in a major way.
+* Text thinning.
+* Warnings have been condensed into single groups (Desktop so far. This may not stick).

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Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
-I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides.
+I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides. I am working on fixing the problems with the Laptop guide, and also sharing the changes I make that can be shared to the Desktop guide.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17) ==
-I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps. I'm pretty sure they are, but I'm not 100% sure since I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
+I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps (or any other part of the guide). I'm pretty sure they are using a WL, but I'm not 100% sure. I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17) ==
-I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible.
+I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible. Even though I am making major changes, I am committed to not mentioning Toshiba in the whitelist steps. I'm pretty sure they are, but I'm not 100% sure since I have NO INTEREST in testing anything Toshiba related.
+
I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17) ==
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible.
+I also want to group together certain related warnings to save line space and reduce the average character count per line in both the Laptop and Desktop guides.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''
+~~'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''~~
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
-As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
+As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
== Update (9/5/17) ==
+
I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
-As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
+As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).
+
+== Update (9/5/17) ==
+I released this guide too early and I need to continue to work on it. I will have to make it private until I can make these changes and release it with as few flaws as possible.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
+'''Non patrol threshold change: Instead of using my usual 20k standard, I have bumped it up to 30k just for this guide. I am doing it with this guide series inparticular because of the nature of the content. I do not plan on making this the new minimum anytime soon and am considering it a special case with this guide series.'''
+
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
-Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9 to come out, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
+
+Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
-So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing. Some smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9 to come out, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
+So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing.
+Some of the smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9 to come out, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You are free to strart translating this huide, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selection) untranslated until I have a more concrete answer on what will happen to the step AND what I do with this current laptop. I am considering downgrading it to a general legacy BIOS warning and moving System selection to a dedicated step. What I can confirm is if repairs meet or exceed 40-50% of the cost of a new laptop, I'm not repairing this laptop and it WILL change.'''
+'''Translators: Since I am mostly finished, you can start translating this guide. However, I would not recommend translating the System selection step since there may be a final hardware change at some point due to anticipated repair costs compared to what I feel comfortable investing into the repairs of the laptop (I usually end up limiting repairs to 40-50% of a used replacement system). Everything else is final and the only changes I need to make are likely to be minor.'''
-'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translating Step 1, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation. The legacy BIOS warning is set in stone, so that's not going to change. The rest of the step might change, so it's probably best to leave the rest as-is.'''
+'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance. Most of the problems I had are related to finding good hardware and content cleanup. I didn't expect it to be easy to clean up and recover, so I was prepared for something like this to happen (I started it in 2013 and abandoned it and made it private as a guide I wanted to delete in 2014. I ended up working on it again in 2015). I'm releasing it unfinished and work on the final changes while it's public because it took so long.'''
-'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
+So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with multiple issues since the original content wasn't reusable (it was either old, failed content style retention or the original version was badly written to begin with). I also had a lot of issues with hardware, since I am on my second system and that's even potentially too expensive to justify repairing. Some smaller reasons were wanting to wait on Debian 9 to come out, since I was originally planning on releasing wireless testing notes (I ended up giving up on this idea since it was causing too many issues). The best thing I can do is take what happened with this guide and not make these mistakes a second time.
-So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
+While most of this guide is complete (~96% complete), there is still a descent amount of work left to do until it is 100% finished. I need some new pictures (hard drive/new, distro pics on the final laptop) and maybe I will end up making some additional changes. The AMD CPU picture (specifically, it was pulled from [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]) was copied, but that's because I don't think it's worth getting an AMD laptop for one picture.
-As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
-
-As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete and it's probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I finish the parts I had to neglect right now. I am going to say that it's very likely I am going to change hardware if the problems are what I think they are, since it's going to be nearly as much to replace as it is to repair since the cooling problems relapsed.
+As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long and I was not able to release it 100% complete. I released it early because of how long it took to make the guide, along with being time sensitive to an extent. It's still going to take a while to get it to 100% completion, but enough of the guide is finished it shouldn't take too long. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and fix some of the major problems while I start looking at repair or replacement with the current laptop I am using (and finish the parts I had to neglect).

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selection) untranslated until I have a more concrete answer as to what will happen with this laptop (and the step, for that matter. I'm considering downgrading it to a legacy BIOS warning and moving the hardware selection to a dedicated step long term). What I can confirm is if repairs meet or exceed 40-50% of the cost of a new laptop, I'm not repairing this laptop and it WILL change.'''
+'''Translators: You are free to strart translating this huide, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selection) untranslated until I have a more concrete answer on what will happen to the step AND what I do with this current laptop. I am considering downgrading it to a general legacy BIOS warning and moving System selection to a dedicated step. What I can confirm is if repairs meet or exceed 40-50% of the cost of a new laptop, I'm not repairing this laptop and it WILL change.'''
-'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translating Step 1, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation - it's probably best to only translate the legacy BIOS warning just in case I move the hardware selection to a dedicated step. The rest should be left as-is'''
+'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translating Step 1, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation. The legacy BIOS warning is set in stone, so that's not going to change. The rest of the step might change, so it's probably best to leave the rest as-is.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete and it's probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I finish the parts I had to neglect right now. I am going to say that it's very likely I am going to change hardware if the problems are what I think they are, since it's going to be nearly as much to replace as it is to repair since the cooling problems relapsed.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selection) untranslated until I have a more concrete answer as to what will happen with this laptop (and the step, for that matter. I'm considering downgrading it to a legacy BIOS warning and moving the hardware selection to a dedicated step long term). What I can confirm is if repairs meet or exceed 40-50% of the cost of a new laptop, I'm not repairing this laptop and it WILL change.'''
-'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translating Step 1, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation - it's probably best to only translate the legacy BIOS warning just in case I move the hardware selection to a dedicated step. Leave the rest as-is'''
+'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translating Step 1, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation - it's probably best to only translate the legacy BIOS warning just in case I move the hardware selection to a dedicated step. The rest should be left as-is'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete and it's probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I finish the parts I had to neglect right now. I am going to say that it's very likely I am going to change hardware if the problems are what I think they are, since it's going to be nearly as much to replace as it is to repair since the cooling problems relapsed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selection) untranslated until I have a more concrete answer as to what will happen with this laptop (and the step, for that matter. I'm considering downgrading it to a legacy BIOS warning and moving the hardware selection to a dedicated step long term). What I can confirm is if repairs meet or exceed 40-50% of the cost of a new laptop, I'm not repairing this laptop and it WILL change.'''
-'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translate it, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation - it's probably best to only translate the legacy BIOS warning just in case I move the hardware selection to a dedicated step. Leave the rest as-is'''
+'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translating Step 1, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation - it's probably best to only translate the legacy BIOS warning just in case I move the hardware selection to a dedicated step. Leave the rest as-is'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete and it's probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I finish the parts I had to neglect right now. I am going to say that it's very likely I am going to change hardware if the problems are what I think they are, since it's going to be nearly as much to replace as it is to repair since the cooling problems relapsed.

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No

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider rewriting it to just be a Legacy BIOS warning and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
+'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selection) untranslated until I have a more concrete answer as to what will happen with this laptop (and the step, for that matter. I'm considering downgrading it to a legacy BIOS warning and moving the hardware selection to a dedicated step long term). What I can confirm is if repairs meet or exceed 40-50% of the cost of a new laptop, I'm not repairing this laptop and it WILL change.'''
-'''Translators 2: Until I know more about the bill of health for the machine, I would ONLY recommend translating the legacy BIOS warning.'''
+'''Translators 2: If you choose to ignore my advice about waiting to translate it, I'd recommend only doing a partial translation - it's probably best to only translate the legacy BIOS warning just in case I move the hardware selection to a dedicated step. Leave the rest as-is'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete and it's probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I finish the parts I had to neglect right now. I am going to say that it's very likely I am going to change hardware if the problems are what I think they are, since it's going to be nearly as much to replace as it is to repair since the cooling problems relapsed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider rewriting it to just be a Legacy BIOS warning and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
+
'''Translators 2: Until I know more about the bill of health for the machine, I would ONLY recommend translating the legacy BIOS warning.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
-As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.
+As it stands, this release is anticlimactic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete and it's probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. The main thing I'm glad about is I can finally release it. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I finish the parts I had to neglect right now. I am going to say that it's very likely I am going to change hardware if the problems are what I think they are, since it's going to be nearly as much to replace as it is to repair since the cooling problems relapsed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider rewriting it to just be a Legacy BIOS warning and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
+'''Translators 2: Until I know more about the bill of health for the machine, I would ONLY recommend translating the legacy BIOS warning.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider rewrite it to just be a Legacy BIOS warning and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
+'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider rewriting it to just be a Legacy BIOS warning and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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No

Status:

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
+'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider rewrite it to just be a Legacy BIOS warning and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

-Guide link: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
+Guide link: https://ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
+'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40-50% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

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Guide link: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed within reason I'm replacing the hardware.'''
+'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed under 40% of the cost of a new machine, the hardware will be replaced.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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Edit by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130
-'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. Your call here, but if the hardware can't be fixed within reason I'm replacing the hardware.'''
+'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. It's your call what to do here, but if the hardware can't be fixed within reason I'm replacing the hardware.'''
'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''
So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).
As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.
As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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Original post by: Nick

Title:

Feedback request; 2008-2012 Linux config guide (Laptop)

Text:

Guide link: www.ifixit.com/Guide/Laptop+Linux+Machine+configuration+(2008+2009+2010+2011+2012)/13130

'''Translators: You're free to translate this, but I would recommend leaving Step 1 (System selction) untranslated until I figure out how bad the problems this laptop has are, assuming I don't consider removing it and leaving it at that. Your call here, but if the hardware can't be fixed within reason I'm replacing the hardware.'''

'''Everyone else: If anyone thinks that I was wrong to release this after taking 2 years, please give the guide a chance (I had really bad luck with finding good hardware for this guide). I didn't expect it to be a easy guide to recover since it started it in 2013, abandoned it and went private in 2014 to try and salvage it in 2015. Since it took so long, I'm going to release it as an unfinished guide and let it prove itself while I iron out the leftover issues.'''

So this is guide that I have had so much trouble with over the course of nearly 2 years. After dealing with many issues (old content, trying to retain the old writing style, bad hardware, Debian 9 holdoff, etc.), I finally managed to get somewhere. In hindsight, I feel like a new guide without 4 years of baggage would have been better (or at least a default content purge to keep the old link alive). I think the best thing I can do is take what happened as a lesson for the future so this doesn't happen again (or at least isn't as bad).

As far as how incomplete the guide is I'd say it's ~95% of the way finished. At this point I just need better pictures (Core i series CPU, dGPU, new hard drive) but most of the issues I had are more or less fixed. Yes, I did borrow a picture for the AMD CPU step (specifically [https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Gateway+NV52+Motherboard+Replacement/25153|this guide]), but that's because I didn't think it was worth buying hardware to get one picture.

As it stands, this release is anticlimatic. It took way too long, I wasn't able to be release it 100% complete (time+multiple delays) and it's still probably going to take some time to get it to 100% completion. I'm just glad to have it out now. If anyone has some feedback, leave it so I can make some improvements to the guide and be more prepared for when I fill in the blanks as I look at certain parts of why I never got around to it. It's also likely the hardware will be different, since I did some testing on this laptop and the thermal issues still exist. I wasn't actually in the clear, since the thermal issues relapsed.

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