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1 MacBook Pro keyboard still broken, Apple Ack's the issue this time!
Well still not fixed! Maybe the forth time will be the charm … Apple Apologizes Over 'Small Number' of Users Who Continue to Have Issues With Third-Generation MacBook Keyboards
Here’s another! Verge - Apple apologizes for continued reliability problems with its MacBook keyboards
“Daring Fireball’s John Gruber similarly held back no punches when linking to the Journal’s ''''story. He said “I consider these keyboards the worst products in Apple history. MacBooks should have the best keyboards in the industry; instead they’re the worst. They’re doing lasting harm to the reputation of the MacBook brand.”
Apple’s apology is at least a recognition that this is still a problem, though the company is simultaneously trying to give the impression that it’s not a big deal. That’s not good enough. Apple will have to make some legitimate design changes over the coming months to finally distance itself from this narrative and, as Gruber said, the sinking reputation of its laptop keyboards. These are premium machines with keyboards that just aren’t up to par.”
Yep! Apple needs to get back to the older keyboard design. Fatten the system up so it has the needed cooling for these hotter running chips (i9 and newer) and give us Pro’s our ports back! - USB-A, Ethernet & MagSafe
David Lee - Apple's Sorry... But Not Really
Update (04/02/2019)
Here’s a new vid upload on YouTube directly from Wall Street Journal’s Joanna Stern an outspoken journalist on the failing Butterfly keyboards Apple's Faulty MacBook Butterfly Keyboard Explained... With Real Butterflies
Very well done!
Is this a worthwhile discussion?
The chassis these i9 machines probably need is the ODD era one. Dump the internal optical drive and use the newly gained space for a massive heatsink that's not shared with the CPU and GPU.
by Nick
@nick -Like this?? Make the MacBook THICC Again
by Dan
I'm assuming you're referencing the 2012-15 rMBP. I REALLY would like a proper 17" MBP successor as well (with standard NVMe drives and modular RAM); hopefully the 16" checks that box. The soldered RAM and nonstandard SSD in the 15" have never sat well with me for good reason.
Sort of; I'd like to see the chassis from my old MBP (and the Unibody MacBook) come back with real cooling meant to handle the i9. Dumping the optical drive may shave 1-2mm off so you will probably end up with a 7-8mm laptop that way, rather than a notebook designed around a rarely used 9.5mm optical drive. I don't need an optical drive and I don't want it. One less thing to fail.
by Nick
@nick - The i9 and the coming 8 core this fall needs the full space for the cooling system so they don't throttle to the level the i9 does now! Yes, I'm talking about the older 2009 > 2012 Unibody frame.
This is a REAL Pro's MacBook Pro, not the Bling box the 2016~18 are. Yes, they have a place (I call them MacBooks wanting to be MacBook Pro's) If Apple called them what they truly are MacBook's then we wouldn't be in such a mess!
Of course the innards will be completely redone. No need for the optical drive. Bring back USB-A ports (2) USB-C (2 & 2 recessed for MagSafe-C back L&R) Ethernet, & SC slot. T2 with soldered storage, Then two PCIe blade drive slots (supporting RAID), & serviceable RAM.
And the older full travel keyboard with pop off keycaps and lastly, the older iDP display interface (no ribbon cables!!!)
by Dan
I'd like to see a board with a chip with similar protections as the T2 provides. The only difference being NVMe SSD compatibility with a private key protected electronically so if you attempt to hack it, you destroy the key (and data) so you get similar protections as the T2. This would be combined with dual NVMe drives that are mainly intended for data storage.
I don't see that happening, but if you could get physical level encryption with T2 level security that would be even better along with what you mentioned it should have. It's a Pro machine, so all storage should be upgradeable.
by Nick
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