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Apple WWDC June 2017

Apple WWDC 2017: live stream, start time, and schedule for today’s keynote.

The conference with a keynote that will highlight what the Cupertino company has planned for your Apple hardware and software

Introduction of a new “Siri speaker” that would bring Apple’s digital assistant on a level playing field with devices like the Amazon Echo or Google Home.

Starting time: San Francisco: 10AM / New York: 1PM / London: 6PM / Berlin: 7PM / Moscow: 8PM / Beijing: 1AM (June 6th) / Tokyo: 2AM (June 6th) / Sydney: 3AM (June 6th).

Live blog: Tune into The Verge live blog for up-to-the-second updates, commentary, and pictures directly from the venue.

Keynote live stream: Apple’s live stream is available on the company's own website, though it requires either Safari or Microsoft Edge on the desktop.

Live tweeting: Follow @verge on Twitter for the latest headlines and details as they emerge.

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December? $#*&$!

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@danj remember what I said about the new MacBook pro's? I won't say I told you so yet, just wait until the teardowns...

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@pccheese - George I have no idea what you think you said.

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I'll provide a link as soon as I find it.

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My team will definitely be tuning in! We're exited for/dreading product announcements ;)

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Update: June is going to be frightfully busy for the teardown team!!

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@sam good. No more fun trips to Costa Rica or anywhere else for any of you until after the summer :-))

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Yeah I think the next "fun trip" scheduled is for iPhone teardown hehe

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From what I see the iMac Pro does have socketed RAM. But no access door to get to it so you'll need to completely tear the system apart to upgrade it. It also looks like the CPU is soldered! For such an expensive system it's not user friendly.

Can't figure out where the SSD is located or if it's using the newer wide interface the function key MacBook Pro uses. I'm sure someone will come up with an egg cooker for the fan exhaust as this boy will be running very hot! ;-}

The iMac 21" is soldered CPU & RAM, The standard 27" does have upgradable RAM. From what I see it's using the same setup as the older model (access door in the back).

Nothing new in the ports in the MacBook Pro's (I was hopping Apple would give us the ports back). CPU, RAM & SSD are all soldered down!

In the fall we'll start moving to Windows systems! Thats over 500 systems! Sorry Apple you lost another big one! Hello HP! Laptops, Desktops & even Workstations with ThreadRipper!

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@danj don't forget how cost effective building a PC is! You can soon get a 6-core motherboard+CPU for under $600. You could build an 6-core PC for under $850 and 8-core for $1000. You could never get something like that from HP.

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@pccheese - Sorry George, MS Windows & Standard PC's are not really cheaper when you really do the numbers.

In our case it's all about being repairable! Thats the only reason we are switching. The older non-Retina MacBook Pro's where tanks! And supporting the user base is a cake walk with OS-X/MacOS. I've got a bottle of antacids in my desk which I'll be dusting off once we start the migration.

If we could we would stay with the Mac's as the amount of support costs are much lower. Apple took a left turn on us and left us with no options.

BTW - We also don't build PC's we buy them configured as we want from the manufacture in this case it's HP. While a home gear-head like your self can build what suits you. In the real world we need multiples of the exact same system. A very different environment!

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I'm not sure what you ment by "Sorry George, MS Windows & Standard PC's are not really cheaper when you really do the numbers." As I stated it was cheaper to DIY. Also, home-built PC's can always be exactly the same, just by the same parts! DIY will always be cheaper.

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@pccheese Please don't argue with the master, it's rude

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Oh yes, that reminds me. I came up with a new name for you, @danj. You shall be the The Master of Macs! While @oldturkey03 is the Man of Manuals, the Sultan of service, and the Meister of Moderation. @mayer wishes to be called Doctor Mac. We need something for @jayeff.

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@sam - For the life of me I can't tell if the bare pads in your 21.5" iMac teardown is wider than what Apple was using in the previous models or the newer wider SSD's Apple is using in the function key MacBook Pro 13" Can you fill us in or is it still something different!

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@danj - I'll jump in here since I had hands on the machine during the teardown! The pad dimensions and pin count are identical to those on the 2015 iMac 4K. Here are a couple close-ups for comparison: 2015 iMac 4K vs 2017 iMac 4K

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@jeffsu - Thanks!

So they are just offering the same 4x PCIe SSD drives, mmm... Thats a bit of a surprise given the wider SSD they put into the MacBook Pro function key model.

Now the big Q is do you think someone could just plop on the needed SSD header alone here to make it a dual drive setup or do you think some of the other needed logic is missing on the logic board?

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