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So, is the glass half full or half empty?

@kyle - Take a read of this article from The Verge: Apple reportedly replaced 10 times as many batteries as expected in 2018

Knowing how many batteries you where selling at IFIXIT before throttle gate and now. Do you think the numbers line up?

I personally think its closer to 4-5 million at best. While more than what Apple had installed in the past, I think its also a sign of people just happy with what they have for a iPhone vs always getting the newest which doesn’t justify the expense given what was improved from the older models.

Thats not to say FaceID tech is not cool, its just the TouchID did what people where happy with. The improved processor is still looking for a need so far I don’t see it.

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It seems like it’s similar for Android as well, since smartphone sales appear to be down in general. I still use a Moto G5 Plus and unless something happens that totals out the phone, I see no reason to upgrade just yet. Part of that is we’ve reached a point where an old phone is typically good for 4-5 years now.

I also think it has to do with the move away from traditional contracts to payment plans for some. I may upgrade after I’ve had it for 4 years, but it’s going to be a paid for factory unlocked phone. It no longer makes sense to finance certain phones because they’re cheap enough you can pay for it all upfront. With the spread of cheap prepaid plans and affordable unlocked phones, it’s going to become far more common to buy your phone outright.

That’s been my general rule for a while, especially since traditional contracts went away from regular carrier phone sales with the shift to payment plans. That move is partially why I will never finance a phone again. It makes *more* sense to keep an old phone for 4-5 years, upgrade to a unlocked model that’s paid for on day one now more then ever. That ultimately means there’s a reason to keep your phone for longer and try your hand at cheap repairs.

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@nick - I was hoping @kyle would have an idea if this sounds even close.

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I see. My theory is it's an industry-wide thing now that they cost so much and you can't get deals on new ones with a new contract anymore.

I remember with old contracts me (and everyone else in the family) upgraded because we could. That hasn't been the case since they moved to financing the phones.

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