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Patrol and Moderation Page Upgrades

Hello friends,

We've neglected the Answers interface for far too long. Thank you for putting up with us. It's time for a remodel!

We're embarking on a major initiative now to redesign key pages of the site to make them work better on mobile and be more clean and easy to use. While we're at it, we want to fix any long-standing grumbles you have with the pages.

We recently rolled out upgraded guide and wiki edit pages that are mobile-first. You can write a guide from your phone now! And make quick edits when you're on a page.

Next up: we've redesigned the Moderation and Patrol pages for you. We'll be deploying these later today.

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If we've changed something that you love, never fear! Let me know what the challenges are and we'll work on it.

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@kyle looks and feels good with a slightly more intuitive UI. Thank You to the OP's team

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Hi!

It is great to see all the new UI updates across the forums. I've now had some time to use some of the different features, so here are my thoughts of them.

Some additional information, I primarily use a Laptop/PC/desktop on a Firefox-based browser, so that is where my perspective lies.

Device Pages

I like the new look of device page editing and putting the not-so-often-touched features in separate tabs really cleans them up! The layout feels more "focused" and refined, I love it!

There are two features of the device page that I particularly miss:

I really miss having the preview option when editing a device page. Being able to preview the page while editing makes drafting and revising much easier. I tend to use this a lot when working with tables, links, and other formatted data to make sure they're coming out correctly. This is especially useful when editing a device page that you cannot approve yourself/ making edit proposal to a device page. And it would reduce the need to submit multiple revisions in order to confirm formatting.

This is a minor one. I miss the custom reputation permissions in the metadata tab, OR the option of the "standard" 500 reputation permission for users to edit the page. The addition of predefined reputation levels in the new UI is really nice (and nifty to limit the maximum reputation permission to the reputation of the user), and I love the feature that the fine print explains how many users can approve changes based on the selected reputation, it gives a much better indication of how much the reputation permission is restricting.

Moderation

The new moderation UI did take me some time to get used to and I've tried to give it some time. I've briefly checked the page in a simulated phone format (through desktop browser's developer tools), and there I do like how this looks and it works really well. It is great to see the mobile-first approach. For both PC and mobile, I do like that a lot of clarity has been added, e.g. as it is more clear when users are disagreeing on a moderation which could be unclear before, and I like that a lot more information is now shown. I also like the added clarity on "what the moderation does".

Though on desktop, I find the moderation tab honestly a bit messy or cluttered. Sure, when having voted on moderations, it tidies itself up a bit. However, especially before having voted on everything, I find it somewhat a cluttered. I think this may be because there is a lot of things going on visually, on top of having less "visual" separation between the different moderation issues.

Guides

I have not yet done any major work in the of new UI for guides. But so far:

Overall I like the new UI. Everything feels a bit clearer and cleaner. I like the small handles by each line/bullet points. and I like the new markup options by the line/bullet points. I like the new feature of opening the images in a large preview (and I hope we will get to see this feature when the viewing of the guides and in answers too). In general I also like all of the small changes that has been made that makes working in guides smoother.

And all the changes (and the things I miss) with the device pages applies here too.

But my two caveats would be that I prefer the slightly larger standard text in the old UI compared to the new UI. The second caveat is that I feel that the step-box area on the left hand side uses a little more space than necessary. I do like the general design principles with the step-box area, with the handles and the new look. It is a nice idea of including the step titles, however, the space available for the step titles is limited, so only a small amount of the title is readable. I would personally prefer to reduce the width of the step-box area in order to give more space to the "main area", and then the text size of the "main area" could also be increased.

Main area meaning (red square):

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Step-box area meaning (red square):

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Summary

I really like where all of these new changes are taking the UI. It will make using the forums much easier and pleasant. Thank you all for the great work you've done with all of these UI updates. I appreciate how much effort it must have required. I am also grateful that you are reaching out to us for feedback!

Thanks a lot,

Cheers

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Thank you for the input, that's very helpful. I'll share this with the team!

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While I like these updates I do not like the gradual rep patrol to make sure it stays in Patrol for verification. I mark it at 30,000 rep points for guides I am sensitive to others editing without verification and 25,000 for less sensitive guides with varying legacy thresholds as I've adjusted it over the years, but old guides do not change UNLESS I do a major revision to the guide. I would like to see an option to have a custom threshold back, or at least the option to set ones like 20k+, 25k+, 30k+ and 40k+ as a middle ground. I can live without complete granule control but the limits under the new editor are on the low end for sensitive guides where I need to be sure the edits are correct. I get it -- you don't want people setting it to 100k to lock others out and from my side, I'd never go that high -- at most if I ever noticed a guide is a target with a flexible threshold I'd go 50k but never 100k+.

Like for example this is a guide I consider "sensitive" due to the NIST stuff and SandForce issues that some may not know of and it's a 30k guide: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Erasing+use...

This is a standard 25k guide: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Windows+10-...

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Looks cool! I don't see any changes the answers page yet, so I guess that they are still being implemented? Also, when is there going to be dark mode? Or am I missing something?

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Either way, the moderation page looks great!

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The change is just to Moderation for now. We hope to work on Answers soon, but we're tackling one page at a time.

I want Dark Mode too! We have to do a bunch of legacy CSS upgrades (like this rewrite) before we can get there. It'll take us a bit, it's a big site.

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@kyle Understandable! Can't wait to see what the next changes are! Although, as you said, this is a pretty big site with a lot of stuff, so I guess that we will let nature continue with its flow, no need to rush.

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Kyle Wiens will be eternally grateful.