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How should we improve basic troubleshooting?

Jessa and Rany have suggested improving troubleshooting processes to help with basic questions:

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I noticed a suggestion today in Answers, from Rany, to create a new section: iFixit Troubleshooting. Here, perhaps we could work on a collection of Wiki's to hash out and formalize the broader question of how to approach classic problems in repair. Dare I say--create standards? Most of the newbie questions in iFixit Answers could be answered easily by pointing them, then, to these documents.

We should be harvesting the best content from Answers into troubleshooting documents. We've created a number of these troubleshooting pages over time, and we should all continue to expand them. They're easy to make — just go to /Wiki/Device_Name_Troubleshooting and start a new doc. Then add a link from the device page.

If you keep the same format that we've used for existing troubleshooting pages, then we can integrate it nicely with Answers in the future.

We also need more board-level repair techniques. If you know a thing or two, please head over to the Electronics section and add a bit of knowledge.

As we get into board-level repair discussions, it may be necessary to improve our question categorization. I'd love to hear ideas on how to do that.

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How about starting off by making it easier to find those pages? Why not add Tabs to "Answers" that will link to the trouble shooting pages as well as existing Wikis?

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I agree with oldturkey--This is a visibility problem. There are already troubleshooting guides? Who knew?

From my limited experience, the heart of iFixit is the Answers section. I think putting a link to an appropriate troubleshooting guide as an almost automatic comment would do wonders. "No power in iPhone 5? Have you tried this troubleshooting plan? (link) Let us know if you get stuck!"

Re: Board-level repair. There are two elements of this:

  1. Troubleshooting a board.
  2. The art of soldering/microsoldering.

For the first, you really need an electronics 101--Princeton Review Style. This is something I bet you, OldTurkey, would be great at writing.

  • What is an inductor? resistor? capacitor?
  • What do those little black chips really do? What is a signal?
  • Walk me through some basic circuits based on real life examples--i.e. the iPad mini battery--how does the board 'know' the battery charge percentage?

This is where I am on the learning curve right now, and I'm having a blast. Today I had a friend over and he walked me through the basics of how capacitors and inductors can smooth AC and DC signals. All super practical---based on real life circuits that I repair every day. Inspired by my repair friend Louis's YouTube channel, Zack and I joked that it would be really fun to make a couple of videos of "Things that may or may not be true" as we tried desperately--and failed---to blow the iPad mini backlight filter today. To teach people to specifically troubleshoot their own board-level problem would require schematics--I'm not sure what to do with that.

For the second, the physical art of microsoldering--this is really all about video tutorials. I have had an interest in doing this for a long time. Other than time, the limitation here is a lack of proper equipment. The good news is that, again, my buddy Louis Rossmann has already figured out what the equipment requirements are to make crystal clear microsoldering videos with voice instruction. Now it is only a matter of implementation.

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Started this https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/Trouble_shoo... a good while ago. Try to find it on iFixit ;-) As for board level repair, I think the issues with schematics can be overcome. Most schematics (specially Apple) are pretty much useless, unless you can find the components on the board. So why not use High res images of the boards in question and point out the components to be measured? Include the values that it should show and where to measure.

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I appreciate the help I can get here, thanks to the experience and quality of many of those who contribute.

And when I want to add my share, I try whenever possible (or time permits) to give step-by-step comprehensive answers fashioned like a flow chart or guide, that make it easy for novices to find and understand the issue, and that I can use again as templates. Face it, we’ll not always feel like contributing valuable time, or repeating the same explanations again and again, just to see newcomers reiterate the same question a few days later - not just because they’re too lazy or in a hurry to research the previously answered questions, but also because the novices (who this website was first designed to help) lack the knowledge of technical terms to associate with their issues and thus are unable to search for and find previous discussions.

Which is why I’ve grown convinced, if I may, that troubleshooting guides must be at the heart of the Answers’ section and may be of the whole site, not just a low-visibility remotely accessible section of iFixit.

As Jessa and O.T. put it, there are so many ways we can direct people to those guides, but (again if I may) I’d "over do it:" from the main page such as adding “Troubleshoot Your Device” above or below “Find a Repair Guide,” add a tab next to Guides & Answers, and/or link from the devices’ repair guides, to "suggestions" that appear when trying to fill the tab for a device (when asking questions).

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Lots of great stuff here!

I don't have much to add, but I do think it's worth paying attention to the competence level of the reader, and specifically what they are looking for. There are people who don't care about repair and just want a quick and practical answer, and there are people who will pay 5x what the the device is worth for parts because they think it would be fun to repair it. When replying on Answers I've always found it critical to determine which of those two categories the person fits into, because the correct response is very different for each. I’m envisioning sort of a flowchart-like approach, maybe that starts with a big “Fix My Device” button, then something that identifies the device (possibly using Everymac’s serial number identifier, etc.), then simple questions feeling out the intent of the person, and the category of the repair problem, and on into specifics. Sort of an electronic concierge or a web version of Siri which escorts you to the appropriate part of iFixit. I have always liked the fact that any given device has its own “home page”…maybe the concierge could intelligently lead the user to specific questions on this “home page” which have been pre-determined to be representative answers for a specific device and a specific repair. To me it seems that for the most part iFixit already has tons of quality content, and it’s more an issue of how to deliver people to the appropriate content than it is of creating more.

For instance:

FIX MY DEVICE

SIRI: What repair category? (Apple laptop)

SIRI: Enter your serial number (123)

SIRI: I see you have a White MacBook. What repair category? (screen)

SIRI: Is your screen clearly broken? (no)

SIRI: Is the screen lighting up? (no)

SIRI: Do you see a faint image when you use a flashlight? (no)

SIRI: Is the sleep light on the front of the computer illuminated? (yes)

SIRI: An illuminated sleep light on this model laptop indicates the laptop hasn’t yet attempted to display an image because of a lower-level problem. (Refers user to a question/answer related to testing RAM slots)

SIRI: Did this help you with the problem?

Anyway, you get the idea. This is overly simplistic, and doesn’t go in a hundred different directions that it could go, including the issue of viability of repair from the $$$ standpoint, etc.

And then there is the board-level repair universe, which in my mind almost belongs on a different planet than the typical iFixit-level repairs, both in terms of experience level and willingness to do repair. Don’t get me wrong -- I’m very interested in board repair and I’ve been watching Louis Rossmann’s videos nonstop over the last few months, but I think it’s potentially a huge mess to dump basic users who just want their laptop to work into anything resembling a component-level board repair forum. Maybe the concierge should feel out the expert users right off the bat and immediately take them to the “expert forum”. It’s always seemed to me that iFixit is mainly geared toward beginners and getting new people interested in repair (which is valid, and totally makes sense), but if iFixit is going to start getting really technical, perhaps it would make sense to distinguish the beginning section from the technical section (or the “just get my laptop to work” section vs the “crazy repair hobbyist” section)? This might prevent both groups from getting frustrated due to landing in the wrong sandbox.

FYI, this is a tangent, but here’s Louis’ YouTube page for anyone not familiar with his stuff. This guy has an insane amount of high-level repair knowledge and he’s endlessly passionate about business, philosophy, making money, etc.:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl2mFZo...

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